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22 February 2007 @ 07:06 pm
the low-down  
having a bit of a slow day today... head feels foggy and my limbs aren't moving fast enough. still, not doing too badly for that time of the month. at least the headaches are staying away now. they've been less intense in the past few months. :)

i'm moving out of st kilda tomorrow. hopefully my nomadic ways will end with this last move. i will also be nearer to the vic market at the next place of residence. yay!

more work has popped up in my inbox. handed up two projects in the last two weeks and the next deadline's on 28th feb. everything's under control, captain!

i've mentioned before that some problems have cropped up during my holiday, which is kinda making it very much less of a holiday then i expected. i'm gonna spill the rotten beans now.

what happened was, my wonderful brother decided to send me a singular piece of our 'oven' (the full set comprises 3 or 4 panel pieces altogether) along with a chi machine just for me to use during my 2 months in australia. i was thrilled. it wasn't as effective as a full set, of course, but it would definitely help me maintain the chi flow i've painstakingly achieved over the past months.



so i had a mini-spa set up on the floor of the living area at swanston. it was crude, with a yoga mat and towels, but it did the job. :)

then a complication occured. jean tried my 'mini-oven' a coupla times and thought this was a great business idea to do in melbourne. i wasn't really keen, because all i really wanted to do was to relax and be on holiday. but she managed to convince me that this was something we could join hands to do, and that it was something worth doing. (that's a lot of 'do's in one paragraph!)

so, i told my brother about jean's idea and he was supportive. he sent us an additional 2 panels because 1) to do this business, jean herself needs to experience the full equipment and be convinced of its powers + 2) we need to show the full equipment to people, and not a miserable single panel. people we were planning to speak to, also need to experience the full body thermal treatment and not a partial one. he also told us not to worry about paying for the equipment yet.

is he a great brother or what? :)

here's a pic of our much-mentioned 'oven' in our home spa back in singapore...


here's the makeshift 'oven' in astorial court...


then a big rusty spanner was thrown into the works. jean's mother expressed her strong objection at the idea - because jean has yet to complete her studies and actually graduate from uni. while i agree with that whole-heartedly, i also know that jean had her reasons for suggesting doing a little business - she has gotten into a situation at school where she will only be doing one subject per semester for the next three semesters. her mother doesn't know that. and i'm in no position to say it.

i told her mother that we will then try to sell it off before i leave. and do you know what she said? she said, "ultimately, it's your decision". wtf? i knew her mother was protective but this really cements the fact with a concrete cherry on top. i'm not blaming jean for anything, but i do think the responsibilty is on both of us to resolve the situation.

so that's what my holiday has turned into - one big stress-ball.

in any case, i will not be depending on any help. i will be going out to talk to spa owners, massage therapists and old folks' homes. i'm so not a sales person. but i will give it my best shot.

my brother has told me to ship the equipment back home if i can't sell it off. i'll only do that as a last resort because i want to be responsible for my actions - whether or not my friend feels the same is a separate matter. we've yet to have a proper talk about this.

i'd be very disappointed if she agrees with her mother on this, but i'm prepared to scrape the shit off the fan myself.

wish me luck. :)


 
 
feelin': determineddetermined
 
 
 
Enyienyi on February 22nd, 2007 01:41 pm (UTC)
:( Ah, issues with friends. Not that I know anything, but what about just being direct with her and asking her if she can help deal with the situation? I might be tempted to do it myself, but I'm the grudge-holding type and would seethe inside about it.

Good luck!
JV: leaf116drag0nette on February 22nd, 2007 03:15 pm (UTC)
i have thought of doing that but i'm just waiting for the right moment to do it because this is a friend who isn't used to realising and admitting that she is wrong. we (our group of close girlfriends) love her to bits and this is something we have always accepted about her. we also know it was her mother's doing that formed this behaviour of hers.

i'm also the grudge-bearing type. :) i may forgive, but i will never forget.

thanks for luck babe! :)
Little Miss Sunshine.tiffanyx on February 22nd, 2007 03:16 pm (UTC)
hey darling, the spa thingy in sg, does it lose weight? or it keeps you fit? or?

mm, the mum's abit harsh on her words. dont think your friend should keep quiet about the 1unit/sem from the mother.
JV: speckydrag0nette on February 22nd, 2007 03:25 pm (UTC)
hey sweetie, this is a form of gentle exercise which also pumps up your blood circulation and 'chi' flow. it can be a way of losing weight if you should choose to, and it promotes good health. it's a bit long to go into here, but it's basically a form of thermal therapy which uses far infrared technology. far infrared rays are the same energy as those from the hands of a Qigong master which have healing properties. these rays can penetrate the human body and stimulate our cells. :)

maybe i should do a proper post about this. :)

well, her relationship with her mother isn't the best really. i understand why she doesn't tell her mother much. :[ makes me glad i have my mother the way she is. :) :) :)
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sticker mansilver_crv on February 22nd, 2007 04:48 pm (UTC)
interesting stuff...

but really I am always aginst the ideal of doing business or co-business with friends. It hurts the friendship somehow or another...you case is one example i have heard before...

JV: leaf116drag0nette on February 22nd, 2007 04:52 pm (UTC)
yeh, i've heard that too. that was also part of the reason why i wasn't keen at first. but she really wanted to do it, and i wanted to be supportive of something she seemed so passionate about.

i think there are some friends i would work with without a doubt, and there are some i won't.
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The Citygentcitygent on February 22nd, 2007 08:43 pm (UTC)
I agree with silver_crv. I went into business with a very good mate and it was stressful on our friendship. Fortunately we'd learned to keep work in the office and social out of it.

Anyway, good luck with things. I'd suggest asking health spa's etc if they've ever heard of it, and what alternative therapies are also available. From that, ask them what revenue they get from such kit and from there you can start thinking about return on investment, which is what they care about.

Do you have a backer to buy the kit up front? What strings would they hold? Would you do it order by order? And who's Jean and her Mum? Between thee and I, the less people you rely on, the better.

Research, research, research. And that includes scientific research on the health effects.

JVdrag0nette on February 23rd, 2007 03:40 am (UTC)
there is a pretty standard return on investment on this, because this business is already in full swing in other parts of the world. good idea to compare with their other treatments. :) no backer to buy this set, which is why i'm going to try and sell it. what strings do you mean? ditto order by order? jean is just my exhousemate who wanted to do this as a business. her mom is just... her mom. :)

scientific back-up on the equipment and the technology are all with me. my brother made me bring them along as reading material. i'm quite glad i did bring them. :p
(Anonymous) on February 23rd, 2007 03:17 am (UTC)
pls dont look up the post on ur spa oven. Am interested to know more abt it and the costs involved. thanks
JVdrag0nette on February 23rd, 2007 03:45 am (UTC)
no worries! it'll be a public entry. :)
.that girl.: that girl in the citygirlwhowaits on February 23rd, 2007 10:28 am (UTC)
The spa oven looks good :), what does the chi machine do - does it massage as well?

hope things work out soon xoxo

oh yah, this girl's coming soon to a singsing near you (april)

JV: speckydrag0nette on February 23rd, 2007 07:07 pm (UTC)
the chi machine is a medical device which gently shakes your body sideways in a motion similar to fishies swimming. it promotes blood circulation, chi flow, and is a gentle exercise for people who can't exercise because of physical problems/age or people who have no time or people who are too lazy. it can even align a crooked spine over a gradual time frame. :) the machine is patented, so the specific angles, speed and dimensions are copyright and medically proven effective (there are a lot of copies around - the wrong dimensions can actually cause injury). it shakes your body at a rate matched with the human heartbeat. i will explain this further in my upcoming long entry about the whole spa equipment, but the most important thing about this is - after about 10 minutes or less of shaking, the machine stops, and you'll feel a strong surge of chi energy just coursing through your body. it's amazing. the first time i felt it, i was like, 'woooaaah'. i never understood the concept of 'chi' before i felt it for myself. :)

thanks babe... i hope everything works out too. see you in april! :D
(Anonymous) on February 23rd, 2007 10:36 am (UTC)
Seems to me like your biggest challenge is where to get the contacts to sell this thing. You already know most of what it takes to sell it off. This is what I've already read so far:

- You've identified who might buy it - spas, dermatologists...I quote --> "never can get enough of beautiful skin" =)

- You can rattle off ROI based on costs and recommended usage charges

- You know the benefits of the machine like the back of your hand...heck you are supposed to be the living proof yourself. =)

- You can source information from the rest of the world to complement your sales talk.

Sounds like you've got everything down pat. Waddya mean you're not a good salesman?!
JV: speckydrag0nette on February 23rd, 2007 07:10 pm (UTC)
aww... thanks for the words of encouragement. :) all i can do is rattle off what i know and share what it has done for me and my family... i guess that's really all it takes huh? after all, people want to hear the truth and not some smartassed sales pitch. :)
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hianhwee, tracy LIMhianhwee on February 23rd, 2007 04:16 pm (UTC)
the hotbed oven sounds interesting... i want! what is the price of this treasure?
JV: leaf116drag0nette on February 23rd, 2007 07:22 pm (UTC)
you're welcome to come have a bake in our home oven HH! :) i'm going to do up a proper entry on everything i know about the equipment, including SGD prices. i only have an AUD pricelist with me now... prices differ in different countries. :/

it's more affordable in singapore. :) to give you a rough ballpark idea - chi machine is 600+, oven panels are 1k+ each. there are different promotions going on where they may give the chi machine free when you buy the oven, for example.
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 Lee  (Tracy Lee, actually :)popcorn_feet on February 23rd, 2007 07:53 pm (UTC)
oy. what a mess... I hope it doesnt effect your friendship...that would suck.
JV: leaf116drag0nette on February 24th, 2007 06:40 am (UTC)
i had a light-hearted chat with her just now. i didn't bring up the sensitive issues or who was to blame, just discussed briefly how we were gonna solve the problem. she seemed receptive enough. :)
WickedWeedwickedweed on February 26th, 2007 02:25 am (UTC)
what does it do? where to buy? how much?
JV: speckydrag0nette on February 26th, 2007 02:36 am (UTC)
all answers in the comments above!

except for where to buy - mail my brother or me if you want to buy. :)